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RE: Forced XP Tapping/Leeching - Frogboy - 12-23-2008
the scenario you described would be considered leeching and if you can determine the person who is doing as such then they can and will most likely be jailed or banned or something.
in the case of anubis i'm not sure of a good way of countering something like this as i don't really know of a way to heal undeads, but for anything not undead, just get a vitata card and heal away then kill the monster yourself. granted this makes you use up extra resources, but it would ensure that all effort on part of the other individual was wasted.
RE:??Forced XP Tapping/Leeching - The Legendary Joe - 12-23-2008
Fenrisulfr Wrote:PS I've never once seen an Anubis Teleport my whole time Leveling there, both Heal Bombing or TUing... (/swt) You guys sure he Tele's?
I've made them tele a couple times on my dancer trying to keep it out of spell casting range but still in my attack range, but I suppose it could be done with traps too. Usually teleports when i shoot it so it can't see me and I spam some more attacks, and they think it's being rude attacked /swt
![[Image: anubisskillfg6.png]](http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/3692/anubisskillfg6.png)
A small list of Anubis's skills and when they'll use them, and what % chance they'll use them at, courtesy of ratemyserver.net
RE: Forced XP Tapping/Leeching - Fenrisulfr - 12-23-2008
[Off Topic]
Going to take a stab at it and say "rude attacked" is when you attack and it can't attack back (would explain why as a Priest, I never triggered that before). Though, not sure why Trapping works with them then *shrugs*
Thanks for that though *claps*
[On Topic]
Not looking to get anyone in trouble. Really just trying to get a feel of people's thoughts on the matter but I thought a Poll would be awkward /swt
RE: Forced XP Tapping/Leeching - GM-Ayu - 12-23-2008
I don't see what's the problem at all...
-if a monster isn't aggroing anyone already, it's FFA
-if a player purposely lower a monster's hp down then let someone else kill it, you really do affect the spawn rate so it's really just lowering exp/hr. Not to mention, it's honestly hard to try to have the boosted exp overcome the shared exp.
-if another player wants to remedy this problem, just kill it asap and a new one will respawn elsewhere. You do get exp for finishing it off. It does *not* waste your resource to really finish off a monster that someone started. It is weakened afterall, so while you do get less exp for what could have been a full hp kill, you get an easier time at it.
The only real "problem" with this is for MVPs. MVP gets significantly harder, usually using power up, agi up and other much more deadly spells as their hp go lower, so it takes more work to get the last push to kill it. But MVP is FFA afterall, and you miss out the mvp item portion of it then.
As for leeching, it's acceptable in heRO as long as you aren't leeching while being AFK (which the server got its own exp-share auto-off to deal against that.)
And yes, you are right on rude attack. In any state if the monster considers it as out of range to strike back or impossible to strike back, it'll be in "rude attack" status and activate whatever spell it uses for rude attack.
RE: Forced XP Tapping/Leeching - Fenrisulfr - 12-23-2008
So just to make sure, you're saying that if I'm, say, a Knight, and I leave all the Anubis on the Map at 2K HP and make all the Alchies/TU Priests Tap EXP for me to Cycle the Spawn so I can repeat the process, that's fair game? And if one were to Level an Aco by Heal-Tag-Tele in Anubis (assuming one does not die doing so) to Leech EXP off other people's Kills, that is fair game as well? And this is because they are not MVP monsters and such tactics affects EXP per Hour but not Spawn rate technically (as you only rob them of their chance at EXP but not the Kills) correct?
Thank you again for your time! Much appreciated.
RE: Forced XP Tapping/Leeching - GM-Ayu - 12-23-2008
as long as you don't hit them when they aren't in aggro (and thus fall into no KS type of thing then), sounds fine to me.
Note that forcing a monster to lose aggro by Recovery counts as disturbing the target monster equivalent to buffing a monster in hopes of having the monster to screw the player up.
RE: Forced XP Tapping/Leeching - Spire - 12-23-2008
Would it be wrong of me to tap a mob someone is hitting to boost their exp? Ex: Hitting an Anubis with a dagger (as a caster build)
RE: Forced XP Tapping/Leeching - Ryu Van Burace - 12-23-2008
See as an aside, when I'm levelling at Anubises, I actually like it if I see priests doing what one particular player does: s/he buffs me, whacks them once with a rod and then ports away.
Increased xp for me and buffs? Can't beat that.
RE:??Forced XP Tapping/Leeching - teOx - 12-23-2008
GM-Ayu Wrote:as long as you don't hit them when they aren't in aggro (and thus fall into no KS type of thing then), sounds fine to me.
Note that forcing a monster to lose aggro by Recovery counts as disturbing the target monster equivalent to buffing a monster in hopes of having the monster to screw the player up.
isnt the point of OP that people are abusing tap?
if someone goes around hitting every anubis down to 1k like OP said, that ruins the exp completely for all TU priests who come across it, just so the first guy can gain an exp boost. yet they have no choice but to kill it if they want respawns to continue levelling.
if someone is doing it, its obviously an abuse. problem is that its hard to regulate.
ayu Wrote:-if another player wants to remedy this problem, just kill it asap and a new one will respawn elsewhere. You do get exp for finishing it off. It does *not* waste your resource to really finish off a monster that someone started. It is weakened afterall, so while you do get less exp for what could have been a full hp kill, you get an easier time at it.what about TU priests who rely on oneshot. they spend time to TU and only gain crap unless they heal bomb which still takes time. when people find an anubis they gain 140k exp. when they find a weakened one they gain crap. same with all classes. there are only 15 on the map. thats easily an abuse as well as severely hindering other players levelling if someone is actually doing this abuse.
RE: Forced XP Tapping/Leeching - Monkey Feet - 12-23-2008
Well, I'm a blind SG, and whenever I'm at hill winds, I don't realize 2 hill winds appearing out of nowhere is from a sin running around screaming "Lalalala~" so would that be considered KS if I appologize?
SGs are REALLY blind.