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De-Customize New World - azurerogue - 06-05-2013 11:49 AM
I've been doing some of the New World Quests over the last day or two and some of them are actually interesting.??But because of some custom changes heRO has made to the monsters in the new world (as well as how many monsters are on each map) it's hard for an 8x trans character (who can kill some mobs but can't handle large groups) to complete some of these quests.
For example, in the official (non-renewal) version of Splendide 2 there are: 15 Luciola Vespa and 95 Pinguicula.??In the heRO version of Splendide 2 there are: 45 Luciola Vespa, 105 Pinguicula, 20 Naga, 15 Cornus.??
I'm not sure why these changes were implemented initially but they make it substantially more annoying to try to complete these quests.??On top of simple changes in number and types of mobs these monsters are completely changed from their non-renewal official versions.??
Official Luciola Vespa is meant to be a pain to kill and it hits hard and fast, but it doesn't constantly lay down venom dust nor does it have snap that it uses almost constantly.??
Official Pinguicula was supposed to be Earth 3 and have 25 DEF/5 MDEF.??heRO's version is Holy 1 and has 30 DEF/30 MDEF.??This means instead of taking 200% damage from fire and having low MDEF it takes 75% from elemental damage and has moderate MDEF.??And it only takes increased damage from shadow (and then 125% instead of 200%).
Again, I don't know why these customizations were made in the first place - maybe there's really good reason.??But it basically just seems like these monsters were increased / changed arbitrarily and it makes doing the quests way more annoying than they would be otherwise.
My suggestion is that even if you want to keep the custom version of the monsters stats/elements can we put their numbers at what they were intended to be? Having more than double the amount of obnoxious bees on the first map into Splendide is frustrating.
RE: De-Customize New World - Mr. Charcanine - 06-05-2013 12:16 PM
Just to add to this.
Are we also gonna see the New World (& Guild Dungeon) cards? (the 10% Magic DMG to race) I'm just curious
RE: De-Customize New World - Aaronock - 06-05-2013 08:43 PM
I'd not mind the monsters being their official selves, or at least changed to the proper elements they normally are.
If only Pinguicula were earth, then I could train my ninja to 99.
RE: De-Customize New World - formerGM-Lassander - 06-05-2013 09:43 PM
So, I wasn't a anything GMy or Interny at the time the new worlds got released, but that was around the time that eAthena started to really go down hill. Anyways, eAthena took it's sweet time to release anything with the new world, and people on HeRO wanted it, so a custom version was created for HeRO, in order to provide a new experience.
Now as an intern my knowledge of what's going on in the future isn't very good, frankly I don't even know if I'll become a full GM. However, I can speculate that there may be a SVN update sometime soon, and that would provide a good opportunity to move to the official new world, that is, if Pandora/far more senior staff then me want it to.
RE: De-Customize New World - Weapon - 06-05-2013 11:34 PM
The monsters are like this because GM-Aki (Or was it GM-Ayu? I forget, they were pretty much the same, whatever ?U) made the custom-maps happen and s/he had a very sadistic, "bet'cha gonna have trouble with THIS!"
...approach to the game in terms of difficulty-level, which made wandering alone in new world lots more difficult--if not severely annoying--than the official version, I assumed it was meant to compensate for how RO-New-World was likely meant with renewal mechanics/overpowered characters in mind.
RE: De-Customize New World - Shaolan - 06-05-2013 11:42 PM
Am i stupid or am i the only one who thinks, that our New World is way easier?
RE: De-Customize New World - Mr. Charcanine - 06-06-2013 12:55 AM
Wait, correct me if I'm wrong.
The official New World was meant for over-powered renewal characters so to compensate for the less-powered non-renewal characters...we made it harder?
RE:??De-Customize New World - formerGM-Lassander - 06-06-2013 01:04 PM
Mr. Charcanine Wrote:Wait, correct me if I'm wrong.
The official New World was meant for over-powered renewal characters so to compensate for the less-powered non-renewal characters...we made it harder?
Correcting, although I'm not sure you're really wrong.
Renewal and pre-renewal systems aren't really compatible, The version of new world most people think of as official at this point is meant for trans characters. I'd think they made it harder to encourage partying to get the latest greatest gear.
RE:??De-Customize New World - azurerogue - 06-06-2013 01:26 PM
Shaolan Wrote:Am i stupid or am i the only one who thinks, that our New World is way easier?
It kind of depends on your character. I mean, in some respects our NW is particularly easy. I can run around on my Creator and one-shot almost everything in the NW other than Hardrock and Tendrillion. So having different numbers/stats don't matter to me.
But Splendide Field 2 for regular non-renewal is a great leveling place for fast-casting fire stuff (as long as you avoid the 15 Luciola Vespa). On heRO it's not even an option because they're not earth and there's tons of monsters.
Thanks for the response, though, Lassander. Appreciate it and I do sort of remember that New World wasn't out so we made our own. It was greatly appreciated at the time I'm sure. And, to be fair, I just got a group of people to help me out and I'm fine now. But a quest that simply requires getting to an NPC on a normally sparsely populated map shouldn't be so frustrating :D
RE: De-Customize New World - GM-Pandora - 06-06-2013 03:18 PM
I'll definately think about it, as for the sadistic GM, that was Ayu of course
