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Frogboy Wrote:ok my rebuttal...though you misquoted who said all of that, as it wasn't slate, but me XD
Dx i was sleepy Y.Y

Frogboy Wrote:anyway, the part about increasing the exp does not increase the number of quests. i have no idea where you got that. i wasn't expecting an increase in quests, ever. nobody should, ro isn't known for quests, though we have been doing our best to come up with new quests to do. however, due to the limited amount of quests that we do have, doesn't it make more sense anyway to give a greater reward for completing them because of the lack of quests available? either that, or start making a whole lot more quests that give less exp, so that people that want to quest instead of mob can do so.
my point was that in most MMORPGs the reason players do quests is either because its a quest based game, or because theres a lot of available quests

in RO's case the quests are so few that very few do them, simply increasing the prizes won't really make people want to do them, they'll do them because its easier though

if you actually want to make it so people in RO want to do quests simply because they enjoy them, then you need more quests

Frogboy Wrote:you're saying we'll have useless players that don't know how to play their class. if that were true, don't you think WoW or Guild Wars or any other MMO that is based more on questing for exp rather than killing monsters for that exp would have fallen apart because, by your logic, people that enter spam obviously cannot know how to play their character. that is a complete fallacy as is evidenced in those games. anyone wishing to actually compete and do well will have to put the effort in to knowing how their class works, what is needed in each situation, and how to get what is needed. otherwise you're right, we do have worthless players, but then again, those not willing to put in the time and effort won't really compete as it won't be worth it for them.
in WoW, all the quests involve knowing how to play your character, same with guild wars

the difference in RO is that 90% of the quest RO has are basically "walk to point A, walk to point B" and the ones that do involve killing things for certain allow parties or allow you to omit the step

Frogboy Wrote:as for krogoth's point, and your rebuttal on that, what i have to say to that is so what if they get to a high level? you would agree with me that RO has become more centered around WoE and PvP as the end-game ideal, at least that is the way it has been in most every server i've played in. grinding is just part of the process, or questing, whichever suits your fancy, but in the end it leads to one thing if that's what you want, and that is WoE/PvP/MvP. really, RO will eventually become like all other games, it will become stagnant because there just isn't anything else left to do. that is why Gravity comes up with new episodes, and new quests, and ultimately this whole changeover in the way the game is played and how their stats work and what not, and third classes. there just isn't really anything new by the time you get to the end-game. granted if it could be done more slowly getting there, then that wouldn't be bad, but as it is, there aren't enough quests to do that, so as a temporary thing, raise the exp rates up, then if we can introduce a whole slew of exp quests that give far less exp, yet keep them with the server rates, then that'd be a much more exciting ordeal. the hard part is making quests worthy of heroes Icon_wink
that kind of.... ignored my point /swt
yes its true that RO is more based around WoE, PvP, and GvG lately, but having people level off pure quests simply promotes a lack of knowledge in those areas

Ellie Wrote:.... An archer class DS grinding, rather than doing quests teaches them about equips?
Not so. Not at all.
I used to do HWs. Arbalest[1]. Shoes[0]. And my celeb wings + Cubic ribbon.
And I did fine.
It taught me nothing.
you now know how to use DS, where to stand when killing things, the range you have, your ability to hit lock things, you know which arrows to use on at least one type of monster, you know what gets you killed, and hopefully what you can kill

vs.

you know how to walk, how to use the warper/kafra, and you know how to click and talk to npcs

Ellie Wrote:You say quests make them skip high end leveling?
The quests, and exp you listed, doesn't even get them from 95-99.
What about the 90-94?
Or, if they take doing quests from 70-whatever, what about still leveling from 90-99?

And then trans?

There are NOT enoguh quests to even begin to nullify the high level stuff.
Not to mention, that quests don't provide you with an income. So players will still be killing things for gears/zeny.
some quests do give a decent prize, which give you a fair amount of zeny, after all i did make a rather large some of money off of doing 1 quest, about 900k by doing it once

and im aware that it won't get you past level 9x, and that you will have to go through the trans / final levels to actually complete your character, but if you negate all that time in the levels 80 to mid 90s, your still going to be lacking a large sum of knowledge
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Quest Exp Rate - by Bloodbane - 03-11-2009, 01:08 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by azurerogue - 03-11-2009, 01:17 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Frogboy - 03-11-2009, 01:33 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Corporal - 03-11-2009, 01:41 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Aaronock - 03-11-2009, 02:14 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Fyrus Carmin - 03-11-2009, 03:04 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Frogboy - 03-11-2009, 03:05 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by GM-Aki - 03-11-2009, 06:22 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-11-2009, 07:14 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by The Legendary Joe - 03-11-2009, 07:38 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Sepharius - 03-11-2009, 08:15 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Neuneck - 03-11-2009, 08:31 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Sepharius - 03-11-2009, 09:23 PM
RE: ??Quest Exp Rate - by Loth - 03-12-2009, 12:02 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by GM-Aki - 03-11-2009, 08:42 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Bloodbane - 03-11-2009, 10:17 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by teOx - 03-11-2009, 11:19 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-12-2009, 01:05 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Frogboy - 03-12-2009, 01:52 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Slate - 03-12-2009, 02:57 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by G?n?ral_Argos - 03-12-2009, 11:55 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Fruityla - 03-12-2009, 01:05 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by GM-Aki - 03-12-2009, 02:03 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-12-2009, 06:54 PM
RE: ??Quest Exp Rate - by G?n?ral_Argos - 03-12-2009, 08:40 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Frogboy - 03-12-2009, 07:32 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by KohakuSan - 03-12-2009, 08:19 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Ellie - 03-13-2009, 12:00 AM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Sepharius - 03-13-2009, 12:07 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Ellie - 03-13-2009, 12:52 AM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Sepharius - 03-13-2009, 01:27 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Kirby_Z - 03-13-2009, 10:41 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Force-Attuned Krogoth - 03-13-2009, 12:01 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Aaronock - 03-13-2009, 02:03 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-13-2009, 07:03 PM
RE: ??Quest Exp Rate - by Frogboy - 03-14-2009, 02:06 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Bloodbane - 03-13-2009, 01:22 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Herman - 03-13-2009, 02:31 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Aaronock - 03-13-2009, 02:41 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Kretzer - 03-13-2009, 03:24 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by azurerogue - 03-13-2009, 04:57 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Sepharius - 03-13-2009, 07:21 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Kretzer - 03-14-2009, 05:10 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Ellie - 03-14-2009, 03:23 AM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-14-2009, 05:54 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Ellie - 03-14-2009, 06:46 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by azurerogue - 03-14-2009, 08:58 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Herman - 03-14-2009, 09:31 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-14-2009, 04:37 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by rams365 - 03-14-2009, 04:42 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Kretzer - 03-15-2009, 08:33 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Force-Attuned Krogoth - 03-14-2009, 09:26 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Frogboy - 03-15-2009, 12:57 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by azurerogue - 03-15-2009, 01:37 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Frogboy - 03-15-2009, 01:47 AM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-15-2009, 02:08 AM
RE: ??Quest Exp Rate - by Ellie - 03-15-2009, 03:57 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by azurerogue - 03-15-2009, 02:19 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-15-2009, 02:22 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Frogboy - 03-15-2009, 02:39 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-15-2009, 02:56 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Force-Attuned Krogoth - 03-15-2009, 07:48 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by t0nz0r - 03-15-2009, 07:59 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Rei Ayanami - 03-15-2009, 08:43 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Force-Attuned Krogoth - 03-15-2009, 10:48 AM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Rei Ayanami - 03-16-2009, 10:50 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Slate - 03-15-2009, 10:50 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-15-2009, 03:55 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Frogboy - 03-15-2009, 07:10 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-15-2009, 09:31 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Kretzer - 03-15-2009, 10:07 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-16-2009, 02:08 AM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by GM-Ayu - 03-16-2009, 02:18 AM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Kretzer - 03-16-2009, 05:45 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Neuneck - 03-16-2009, 05:44 AM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Bloodbane - 03-16-2009, 07:54 AM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by GM-Aki - 03-16-2009, 11:04 AM
RE: ??Quest Exp Rate - by Aaronock - 03-16-2009, 11:20 AM
RE: ??Quest Exp Rate - by GM-Aki - 03-16-2009, 06:45 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-16-2009, 04:28 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by azurerogue - 03-16-2009, 04:51 PM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 03-16-2009, 05:06 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Fruityla - 03-16-2009, 05:22 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Ellie - 03-16-2009, 11:47 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Frogboy - 03-17-2009, 12:50 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Bloodbane - 03-18-2009, 07:55 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by GM-Pandora - 03-18-2009, 10:25 AM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by GM-Aki - 04-19-2009, 04:28 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by GM-Aki - 03-18-2009, 10:25 AM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Neuneck - 03-18-2009, 01:19 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Frogboy - 03-18-2009, 02:27 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Ellie - 03-19-2009, 05:50 AM
RE:??Quest Exp Rate - by Kretzer - 03-19-2009, 06:52 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Ellie - 03-19-2009, 07:26 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Bloodbane - 03-19-2009, 07:27 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Ellie - 03-19-2009, 07:28 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Bloodbane - 03-19-2009, 07:47 AM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Bloodbane - 04-19-2009, 04:16 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by JJJ - 04-19-2009, 09:06 PM
RE: Quest Exp Rate - by Bloodbane - 04-19-2009, 11:40 PM
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