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Make WoE more of a battle.
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RE: Make WoE more of a battle.
To start, my point was never to drop to 1 castle. When I joined WoE there was Prontera which typically had high eco and was defended, and Payon which had little or no eco. People actually defended Prontera and others actually rushed. DoE experienced more than a few Behe and KoJ combined rushes into the emp room. Typically people fought for the eco and then at the last minute someone would go to secure Payon cuz they couldn't take Prontera from the defending guild whether it was Behe or DoE. KoJ was still fairly new at the time so trying to say "well 2 castles didn't work since KoJ didn't stand a chance" well, that could easily be said because they were a new guild. They have pretty decent numbers now, and from what I hear more class variety and basic gears, so it would be fun to see how the KoJ now would have faired in that situation compared to what KoJ was at the time.

I do think that having one castle would be too extreme and would probably end up like Alde and RetWoE did, but I think 20 is too much of an extreme in another direction, we don't even have a big enough community for that imo, and like I said expecting the larger guilds to break up into tiny groups for "personal gain" is kind of silly. I never said splits and breaks "never happen" I don't doubt there might be one or two breaks but I highly doubt we'd see all the large guilds break into smaller guilds just cuz they want some basic castle loots.

I'm also not saying that people should find running into a dead end fulfilling and something to want to do, but that's what competition is. You go, get rolled, then improve/increase numbers and try again. You don't fail an exam and sit there telling the exam that if it was easier you'd have passed it until it agrees to become easier and then you suddenly get higher marks, you go home, study/improve yourself and try to do better on the next one.

But as also was stated the number of castles isn't really the core of the problem, I have said it before that I truly believe it's the morale of the community towards WoE which is the downfall in all of this. "Typically" people are always fast to blame DoE and say that if we removed god items and everything else, WoE would be more fun, if DoE split its vets among other guilds, WoE would be more fun, if DoE did x, y, z WoE would be more fun. And a decent percent of the time, the people who are complaining the most barely have basic gears like fb/marc/thara and they're already complaining how impossible WoE is.

WoE to my definition is a competitive event. In which people work to gear themselves, work to build numbers, work to make strategies, and then go and compete against other weaker and/or stronger guilds. So in essence to dumb it down, just because taking the same people, with the same gears, and dying repeatedly doesn't get you a castle, is kind of silly. I say dumb down because as I also said in first post, if 3 castles and 3 guilds is already turtle-ville, then adding even more won't fix anything.

I also said in my post, not to negate "everyone else in the guild" which you keep doing lol. Yes, one guild sends out sinxs to randomly break things with 0 intent on defending anything, but that doesn't mean that the lokis/performers, hwiz, crea, champs, and everything else magically vanish/thin out for 0 reason.

TLDR; If you get rolled in WoE, stop blaming the people who rolled you for being "too strong/OP", there not being enough castles, or whatever. Get up, dust yourself off, re-evaluate and try again. Kinda like this guy; Click Me Please. He didn't yell at the thing to stop pwning him, he got up and danced it off, and probably found some shoes that won't fly off so easily should it ever happen again, just sayin.
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02-27-2012, 06:40 AM
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Make WoE more of a battle. - by ChrisJ951 - 02-19-2012, 06:56 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Incarn - 02-19-2012, 09:06 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Snowhawk - 02-19-2012, 09:51 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by GM-Circe - 02-20-2012, 12:07 AM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by Eldakar - 02-20-2012, 06:16 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Incarn - 02-20-2012, 05:55 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Gojira - 02-20-2012, 11:57 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-21-2012, 01:21 PM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by ChrisJ951 - 02-25-2012, 12:30 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Aaronock - 02-23-2012, 12:42 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-25-2012, 04:01 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Demogorgon - 02-25-2012, 04:51 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-25-2012, 06:22 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Aaronock - 02-25-2012, 08:00 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Merellis - 02-25-2012, 08:21 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Incarn - 02-25-2012, 01:13 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by mahawirasd - 02-26-2012, 07:46 AM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-26-2012, 02:32 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Kittie - 02-26-2012, 04:58 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Landon - 02-26-2012, 05:05 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-26-2012, 11:01 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Landon - 02-26-2012, 11:40 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by mahawirasd - 02-26-2012, 11:52 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Landon - 02-27-2012, 12:28 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by mahawirasd - 02-27-2012, 01:42 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-27-2012, 02:20 AM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by Ellie - 02-27-2012, 02:37 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Deviluke - 02-27-2012, 02:48 AM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by Eldakar - 02-27-2012, 06:13 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-27-2012, 03:57 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-27-2012, 04:21 AM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by Ellie - 02-27-2012, 04:26 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by proto - 02-27-2012, 04:33 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-27-2012, 04:37 AM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by proto - 02-27-2012, 04:40 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-27-2012, 04:51 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Deviluke - 02-27-2012, 04:55 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by proto - 02-27-2012, 05:06 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Namine - 02-27-2012, 05:28 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-27-2012, 06:02 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Deviluke - 02-27-2012, 06:40 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Merellis - 02-27-2012, 07:06 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by ChaosPrince - 02-27-2012, 11:57 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-27-2012, 04:26 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Deviluke - 02-27-2012, 08:16 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-28-2012, 04:03 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by mahawirasd - 02-28-2012, 05:15 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Ellie - 02-28-2012, 05:54 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Merellis - 02-28-2012, 08:43 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Aaronock - 02-28-2012, 08:46 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Gojira - 02-28-2012, 02:24 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by GM-Pandora - 02-28-2012, 02:32 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 02-28-2012, 03:42 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Lena - 02-28-2012, 05:41 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by mahawirasd - 02-29-2012, 09:26 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by azurerogue - 02-29-2012, 05:22 PM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by mahawirasd - 03-02-2012, 01:36 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Aaronock - 02-29-2012, 05:40 PM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by Namine - 03-02-2012, 07:31 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by ChaosPrince - 03-04-2012, 12:10 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 03-04-2012, 01:11 AM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by Eldakar - 03-04-2012, 05:17 PM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by azurerogue - 03-06-2012, 12:57 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by ChaosPrince - 03-05-2012, 01:19 PM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 03-06-2012, 12:04 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Aaronock - 03-05-2012, 05:17 PM
RE:????Make WoE more of a battle. - by azurerogue - 03-06-2012, 01:39 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Aaronock - 03-06-2012, 01:49 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Aaronock - 03-06-2012, 03:27 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Deviluke - 03-06-2012, 04:31 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Aaronock - 03-06-2012, 05:28 PM
RE:??Make WoE more of a battle. - by proto - 03-07-2012, 04:30 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Adrillf - 03-06-2012, 06:41 PM
RE: ??Make WoE more of a battle. - by azurerogue - 03-07-2012, 11:00 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Aaronock - 03-07-2012, 09:12 AM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by ChaosPrince - 03-08-2012, 05:04 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by Shikari - 03-09-2012, 10:08 PM
RE: Make WoE more of a battle. - by ChaosPrince - 03-14-2012, 09:14 AM

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