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Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE
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RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE
n3xus Wrote:it's already been said. everything has a counter.
what's a knight gonna do fighting against a few people if he's been "full stripped?" he'll burn fish and die eventually.

Yes everything has a counter, however, when a Professor runs the risk of a 30% backlash on his Soul Burn, and the enemy takes only only a nominal risk (less than 30%) to recover from it, that is unbalanced. In this case, the counter (fish) are unbalanced.

n3xus Wrote:say we disable fish, then people buy white pots and blue pots, etc. what does the argument devolve to? "the people with more money can buy pots, disable please?" if people put in the time to fish, it should be allowed. it's the same as people having the time to level and/or farm zeny for pots.

This is a classic example of a slippery slope argument, just because one thing may happen, doesn't mean you can automatically assume the world will end. Please stay rational. Also, this will help give business back to Alchemists who can then make 'WoE Potions'

n3xus Wrote:the argument just goes round and round. those without fish will complain about fish. those without zeny will complain about people who have pots, yggs, etc.

Anyone can obtain fish, with ease. You just need to fish for them. You are basically describing the way an economy works, this has no bearing on the discussion, resources are resources are resources. Moving on..

n3xus Wrote:fish isn't really gamebreaking. it's just another thing to actually think about and counter. and i'm not really sure where the idea came from that the GMs didn't think about fish in woe and the strats possible. fish were on their old server and a lot of arguments were already made there.

As my example above states, its not possible for a professor to effectively 'counter' an item that nullifies the effects of a massively risky attack. Remember, Soul Burn = 30% fail rate, Fish = much less than 30% fail rate.

n3xus Wrote:people sell fish in pront. if u don't have the time to fish, then buy. if u don't have the zeny, then you would have lost to someone who knows how to pot. adding coma or disabling them or adding 50% chance of status is just... overkill?

This discussion is not about the ease of obtaining fish. But rather their effects on combat against normal in-game strategies.
11-21-2007, 02:02 AM
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RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Jubei - 11-20-2007, 04:12 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Culex - 11-20-2007, 09:44 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Jubei - 11-20-2007, 11:42 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Naoki - 11-20-2007, 01:43 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Nagi - 11-20-2007, 04:34 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Nagi - 11-20-2007, 10:41 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Nagi - 11-20-2007, 11:09 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 11-20-2007, 08:56 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Nagi - 11-20-2007, 10:56 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Kadar - 11-20-2007, 11:44 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Nagi - 11-20-2007, 11:57 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Kadar - 11-20-2007, 11:59 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Kadar - 11-21-2007, 12:05 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 11-21-2007, 01:28 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by n3xus - 11-21-2007, 01:45 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 11-21-2007, 01:55 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Nagi - 11-21-2007, 02:02 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Nagi - 11-21-2007, 03:42 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Kadar - 11-21-2007, 05:41 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Rei - 11-21-2007, 04:09 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Rika - 11-21-2007, 04:38 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Nagi - 11-21-2007, 05:53 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Mondt - 11-21-2007, 05:58 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Rika - 11-21-2007, 07:17 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 11-21-2007, 08:05 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 11-21-2007, 08:12 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Rika - 11-21-2007, 10:08 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Nagi - 11-22-2007, 07:59 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Nagi - 11-22-2007, 08:22 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Nagi - 11-22-2007, 01:53 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Rika - 11-22-2007, 03:55 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 11-22-2007, 04:23 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Kadar - 11-22-2007, 05:51 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 11-22-2007, 07:00 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Nagi - 11-22-2007, 08:09 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Kadar - 11-22-2007, 10:54 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Yubel - 11-28-2007, 07:28 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Mondt - 11-29-2007, 09:39 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Asumi - 11-30-2007, 12:45 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Asumi - 11-30-2007, 01:14 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Mondt - 11-30-2007, 08:42 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 11-30-2007, 07:30 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 12-15-2007, 07:11 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 12-15-2007, 06:14 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 12-23-2007, 12:30 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 02-09-2008, 05:26 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Wired - 02-09-2008, 02:18 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Merc- - 02-09-2008, 03:35 PM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by teOx - 02-10-2008, 03:18 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Wired - 02-11-2008, 05:03 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Wired - 02-11-2008, 05:35 AM
RE: Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE - by Wired - 02-11-2008, 12:24 PM
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